Friday, September 02, 2005
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Liber Mundi on the diff between Heidegger and Derrida:
Liber Mundi on the diff between Heidegger and Derrida:
Heidegger's conception of being (Sein) as unconcealedness (die Unverborgenheit or aletheia) shows Being to be the predetermined and preconceived ground of any being, and to reveal itself in its very withdrawal. Being is thus present as an absence, but an absence that is precisely the dwelling place of a manifested thing.¶ 9:25 AM
Derrida follows Heidegger, but only up to a point. The trace is no longer the sign of a concealed presence of being, i.e., the sign of an absence, and thus an empty sign, but the very precondition of that undecidedness which characterizes any presence, any utterance, any phenomenon, including that of inner subjectivity.
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"Derrida follows Heidegger, but only up to a point. The trace is no longer the sign of a concealed presence of being, i.e., the sign of an absence, and thus an empty sign, but the very precondition of that undecidedness which characterizes any presence, any utterance, any phenomenon, including that of inner subjectivity."
Do you think this characterizes Heidegger accurately? It seems that there is a thoroughgoing debate over Heidegger's view of language. Especially whether there is a big change from BT to the later Heidegger. I know many, such as Rorty, see Heidegger reifying language. Yet I must confess that I often read Heidegger more the way I think Derrida introduces the trace. I think Derrida's criticisms and engagements with Heidegger are more complex than they first appear. i.e. not so much a difference as something found within.
Do you think this characterizes Heidegger accurately? It seems that there is a thoroughgoing debate over Heidegger's view of language. Especially whether there is a big change from BT to the later Heidegger. I know many, such as Rorty, see Heidegger reifying language. Yet I must confess that I often read Heidegger more the way I think Derrida introduces the trace. I think Derrida's criticisms and engagements with Heidegger are more complex than they first appear. i.e. not so much a difference as something found within.
Language is much more the central issue for Derrida than it is for Heidegger, and so colors his thinking differently; e.g. in making deconstruction so anti-subjectivist, Derrida constrains it on a pro versus anti subjectivist axis. Heidegger on the other hand is interested in ontology, what allows things to be, and he's interested periferally on what his thinking implies for language, or on what theories of language are sympathetic; he finds an affinity with Herder.
Derrida said the trace went beyond Heidegger's thinking. See footnote P. 26 of Différance. "we are marking the necessity of a future itinerary--that différance would be no more a species of the genus Ereignis than Being." Where the itinerary goes and to what purpose has always eluded me. I expect that once literature departments have completely moved on, and Derrida must be defended on purely philosophical grounds, we'll understand more clearly where, if anywhere practical, his thinking leads.
Anyway, Postcard is in the mail on its way here, so maybe in six months I'll have a better sense of this.
Derrida said the trace went beyond Heidegger's thinking. See footnote P. 26 of Différance. "we are marking the necessity of a future itinerary--that différance would be no more a species of the genus Ereignis than Being." Where the itinerary goes and to what purpose has always eluded me. I expect that once literature departments have completely moved on, and Derrida must be defended on purely philosophical grounds, we'll understand more clearly where, if anywhere practical, his thinking leads.
Anyway, Postcard is in the mail on its way here, so maybe in six months I'll have a better sense of this.
Thanks for your comments. I think I'll reread Lawlor on this. Something just seems wrong here. I just can't put my finger on what. My sense is that Derrida too have something like Being as already come and left. But its been too long since I read those texts.
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