Pothast, the singer, says that in the past few months they've all gotten comfortable enough with each other to now be able to rely on improv--many of their songs sound different each time they play them live.

"It's like a tree," says Mason. "You can identify a species of a tree, but no two trees are exactly the same."

"Is that a haiku?" asks Pollina.

"Heidegger wrote something about how he admires an empty vase for its ability to be grounded at the bottom and completely open at the top," says Pothast, "and that's how our song structures ideally work."

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